2021 NFL Gameday Thread

Riverman · October 31, 2021, 9:38pm

Man, reffing is so, so bad.

MrWookie · October 31, 2021, 9:40pm

ARTICLE 16. HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE

No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, or grab the jersey at the name plate or above , and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.

Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.

Melkerson · October 31, 2021, 9:45pm

Thanks. That more or less answers the question.

But it raises another one. If you pull a player down to the ground while grabbing the back of the Jersey such that both hands are beneath the name plate except for one finger which is touching one of the letters. Horse collar or not by the rules?

MrWookie · October 31, 2021, 9:47pm

I assume refs are looking less at the exact hand placement and more at the telltale knee buckling, which is why the rule exists in the first place.

Melkerson · October 31, 2021, 9:48pm

Yeah, I agree with that. I’m just curious what the theoretically correct call would be in that example (assume leg buckling happens as well).

nonfiction · October 31, 2021, 9:50pm

bucs jfc

MrWookie · October 31, 2021, 9:51pm

Listening to the Bucs/Saints commentary feels like:

JordanIB · October 31, 2021, 10:22pm

Sure looks incomplete to me for Fournette.

eyebooger · October 31, 2021, 10:26pm

But it is still legal to yank down ball carriers by their exposed hair, right?

Riverman · October 31, 2021, 10:27pm

I left how was that not Saints ball on the fumble?

Melkerson · October 31, 2021, 10:27pm

I believe that is correct.

JordanIB · October 31, 2021, 10:27pm

Fournette bobbled it initially and never really had complete control.

m_hood115 · October 31, 2021, 10:27pm

receiver looked like he never really had possession of the ball, so incomplete pass

JordanIB · October 31, 2021, 10:29pm

Was hoping TB went for two, got it to 8, then tied later, and oh, I dunno, maybe won by 6 or something in OT.

Habsfan09 · October 31, 2021, 10:29pm

maybe the jets win leads GRR martin to finish his fkn book tonight :D one can hope

Riverman · October 31, 2021, 10:35pm

BB goat?

Riverman · October 31, 2021, 10:41pm

That’s the Chargers I know and love

suzzer99 · October 31, 2021, 10:53pm

There are more people watching the Chargers at the Whole Foods bar than the average sports bar in LA. But I guess they might be Pats fans.

There’s more you can’t see

MrWookie · October 31, 2021, 10:59pm

Onside kick to the house, instead of just winning the game. Didn’t seem to affect the spread or total, though.

Cornboy · October 31, 2021, 11:00pm

Bucs bound and determined to lose.